HOW MANY VEGANS ARE THERE COMPARED TO MEAT EATERS IN THE US?
HAVE YOU EVER TURNED ON THE TELEVISION IN THE US?
HAVE YOU EVER LISTENED TO THE RADIO IN THE US?
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN OUT IN CIVILIZATION IN THE US
MEAT AND DAIRY ARE SHOVED DOWN YOUR…
Ok, I choose to eat meat and drink dairy. You choose to be vegan. There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m not saying there is. I’m saying that there’s no reason for everyone to be up in arms over personal decisions of other people.
It’s like the whole gay marriage thing. Does it hurt you if a guy gets married to another guy? No? Then what are you complaining about?
Yes because eating meat and dairy affects no one
Absolutely no one suffers for your taste preferences
How silly of me
Doesn’t affect me in the slightest. I see no people in those pictures, and let’s be honest with each other while we’re at it.
The majority of my meat and dairy are organic. I hunt for meat a lot of times, like with a rifle type of hunt. The beef is locally raised and slaughtered, and the chicken is also.
If you continue to have an issue with my cruel and inhumane eating of animals, I suggest you cook up a nice locally raised steak and take a bite. It’s very good indeed :)
It affects you more than you know. These industries are destroying the environment faster than cars. The rest of that I don’t even have the time to address because humane meat is a huge joke.
So going into the wilderness and taking a nice big buck is inhumane and unnatural? I hate to break it you but I can think of quite a few other species who hunt out other animals for food. It’s about as natural as it gets! Why deny nature?
I have no problem with people going all vegan. It bugs me to no extent though when vegans say I’m a sadist and cruel for enjoying meat. Live up to your description, be a libertarian like you say you are! It’s my liberty to eat and drink what I like just as it is yours. If you want to try to force me to do something, for the betterment of mankind, label yourself a Liberal or a Conservative and get off my Libertarian band wagon.
I made a post addressing this issue. I’m a libertarian - I don’t care what you do as long as you don’t hurt anyone. I’m sorry that my circle of compassion has the ability to envelope more than human beings- even though being vegan greatly benefits humanity as well.
No need to be sorry :) If that’s the way you are then that’s the way you are! Never be sorry for who you are. It takes a strong person to fight for one’s beliefs. And as I do respect your wish to be vegan, just understand that not all of us carnivores condone practices that you have shown. As I said, that’s why I hunt and that’s why I eat organic when possible. It takes money away from those I don’t like and puts it where I think it needs to go. Capitalism at it’s finest!
I wasn’t actually sorry but thank you for being so civil. :) Although I disagree with you that animals should be killed at all for our eating, I am glad that you use the voting power of your dollar to make informed decisions. Although most carnists (we are biologically herbivores-eating meat for us is a social behavior) do not condone what I’ve posted, they do vote for it with their dollar. Capitalism, like you said! 3 years ago, I was unknowingly supporting these things. That’s why I’ve devoted my life to making these things known and encourage people to think of the issue as a moral decision. I can be pretty blunt, but I assure you that I mean nothing but the best for every living creature on this earth, including you. :)
And for that, you have my like! Good journey’s to you! Check up every now and then, as I like to keep in touch with people who can articulate and carry a civil discussion on things! :)
The more I think about this conversation the more amazing it is. This is an amazing reminder for me as a vegan who gets really flustered and irked when carnists are rude and ignorant. This is an amazing reminder to anyone in any liberation movement! Both sides are human. We’re all rude! Going vegan definitely didn’t make me perfect. We are all hard headed, sarcastic, and sometimes flat out mean. But underneath our passion that sometimes gets crazy and our stupidity that we sometimes refuse to see, we are all pretty good people who are connected and alike even when we are completely different.
Exactly! We’re all just people, regardless of our views on matters and how we go about things. Just because one person likes something and another person doesn’t, doesn’t mean that those two people can’t get along.
Sure, the vegan thing isn’t something I would personally do. Is it something you can do and advocate for? For Sure! That’s the basis of Libertarianism; having the freedom to make your own personal decisions about your life and going about your life unintruded upon. The rights lie with the people and no one else. You are the master of your destiny, no one else!